Comments on: The Rise and Fall of the Online Empire http://www.901am.com/2007/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire New Media News Every Morning Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:12:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Happyeye http://www.901am.com/2007/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-9410 Happyeye Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:16:44 +0000 http://www.actionwebtools.com/~nine01am/?p=1163#comment-9410 I just read your article and I also read the ebook, "The Rise and Fall of BetOnSports" by Hacksaw Hemingway and there is some good insight in there about the industry as a whole never took the initiative to establish relations with political sources because the industry just looked at the immediate returns instead of the long term investment. The book is at www.hacksawhemingway.com. I just read your article and I also read the ebook, “The Rise and Fall of BetOnSports” by Hacksaw Hemingway and there is some good insight in there about the industry as a whole never took the initiative to establish relations with political sources because the industry just looked at the immediate returns instead of the long term investment. The book is at http://www.hacksawhemingway.com.

]]> By: franky http://www.901am.com/2007/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-2056 franky Thu, 08 Mar 2007 05:46:30 +0000 http://www.actionwebtools.com/~nine01am/?p=1163#comment-2056 Duncan, I entirely agree and the obsessive regulations period is right out there, but I hope b'land will realize that only we control how thight the regulations will be. The next 15 months virtually lend us all the power to destroy everything more. I hope that the political bloggers will bring reasoning in their own campaigns, because they can ruin much. And sadly I must say here... it are political bloggers. Looks bad for us. I <em>deontologically</em> don't list them that high as what we always read among probloggers, be correct, disclose aso. Once a political blogger is launched... try to stop him. It will be a though battle, but hasn't that always been throughout history? Reasoning will help us... the Enlightment didn't only bring protest, no they also came with options to ameliorate. Freedom, 200% pro, I believe in blogging... but we have to stay rational and sometimes we'll also have to compromise. Unless your name is Jobs, then today you can bring everyone freedom, make it widely spread, and in 3 years say 'Actually freedom sucks'. Oh no, wait that was DRM. Duncan,
I entirely agree and the obsessive regulations period is right out there, but I hope b’land will realize that only we control how thight the regulations will be. The next 15 months virtually lend us all the power to destroy everything more.

I hope that the political bloggers will bring reasoning in their own campaigns, because they can ruin much. And sadly I must say here… it are political bloggers. Looks bad for us.

I deontologically don’t list them that high as what we always read among probloggers, be correct, disclose aso. Once a political blogger is launched… try to stop him.
It will be a though battle, but hasn’t that always been throughout history?

Reasoning will help us… the Enlightment didn’t only bring protest, no they also came with options to ameliorate.
Freedom, 200% pro, I believe in blogging… but we have to stay rational and sometimes we’ll also have to compromise.

Unless your name is Jobs, then today you can bring everyone freedom, make it widely spread, and in 3 years say ‘Actually freedom sucks’.
Oh no, wait that was DRM.

]]> By: Duncan Riley http://www.901am.com/2007/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-2055 Duncan Riley Thu, 08 Mar 2007 05:22:00 +0000 http://www.actionwebtools.com/~nine01am/?p=1163#comment-2055 Franky, I hear where you're coming from but I still think we've reached the tipping point, sure, it might only be a couple of laws now, but there's a trend that if any thing is growing in pace. You don't always see the rot until the very end, indeed the Romans didn't see their mistakes until quite late. These laws are chipping away bit by bit at the freedoms we currently have. Franky,
I hear where you’re coming from but I still think we’ve reached the tipping point, sure, it might only be a couple of laws now, but there’s a trend that if any thing is growing in pace. You don’t always see the rot until the very end, indeed the Romans didn’t see their mistakes until quite late. These laws are chipping away bit by bit at the freedoms we currently have.

]]> By: Brian Clark http://www.901am.com/2007/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-2057 Brian Clark Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:20:13 +0000 http://www.actionwebtools.com/~nine01am/?p=1163#comment-2057 Great post Duncan. It's time for everyone who is involved in online business and advocacy to be very mindful of the rights and freedoms that are being eroded bit by bit. Great post Duncan. It’s time for everyone who is involved in online business and advocacy to be very mindful of the rights and freedoms that are being eroded bit by bit.

]]> By: franky http://www.901am.com/2007/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-2058 franky Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:13:52 +0000 http://www.actionwebtools.com/~nine01am/?p=1163#comment-2058 Only the threat of obsessive regulation can legalize the freedom. It's an action-reaction effect, but today online still is one of the bigger existing anarchies. Some regulations won't hurt. The liberty we know today (what liberty?) is an ongoing process. First there was anarchy, than rules came and then rules became less and less strict. The online world will evolve just as every other society and world peace might still be a dream, but the internet will spread democracy further and further in our world. The internet today is what the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment" rel="nofollow">Age of Enlightment">Age of Enlightment</a> was to the eighteenth century. And the US presendential elections online campaigns are the evidence that the interrnet a still growing imperium is. A world created by intellectuals. Only the threat of obsessive regulation can legalize the freedom. It’s an action-reaction effect, but today online still is one of the bigger existing anarchies.
Some regulations won’t hurt. The liberty we know today (what liberty?) is an ongoing process. First there was anarchy, than rules came and then rules became less and less strict. The online world will evolve just as every other society and world peace might still be a dream, but the internet will spread democracy further and further in our world.

The internet today is what the Age of Enlightment”>Age of Enlightment was to the eighteenth century.
And the US presendential elections online campaigns are the evidence that the interrnet a still growing imperium is. A world created by intellectuals.

]]> By: Mark http://www.901am.com/2007/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-2053 Mark Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:11:49 +0000 http://www.actionwebtools.com/~nine01am/?p=1163#comment-2053 Raj- I think that what Churchill meant was that rather than wasting energy on what might be, we need to (each in our own, best way) tackle the evils that are very real- now. As you say, the threat to online freedom is already upon us and if we don't act, it will be our own faults. Raj- I think that what Churchill meant was that rather than wasting energy on what might be, we need to (each in our own, best way) tackle the evils that are very real- now. As you say, the threat to online freedom is already upon us and if we don’t act, it will be our own faults.

]]> By: raj http://www.901am.com/2007/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-2052 raj Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:04:30 +0000 http://www.actionwebtools.com/~nine01am/?p=1163#comment-2052 I fully agree that the Internet is the best chance for world peace. And even though I quote or refer to Churchill in my writing from time to time, I fully disagree that we shouldn't look too far ahead. While it sickens me to look far ahead wondering what might happen to online freedom, at the same time, I cannot fulfil Niemöller's implied suggestion without looking forwards. One country after another has been stealing an online freedom or another. In the US, web designers are being tried in court because they were involved in the design of a poker website. So it's going on all over the world and it's not going to stop, once blood has been tasted. Unless we look far ahead and speak out now. I fully agree that the Internet is the best chance for world peace. And even though I quote or refer to Churchill in my writing from time to time, I fully disagree that we shouldn’t look too far ahead. While it sickens me to look far ahead wondering what might happen to online freedom, at the same time, I cannot fulfil Niemöller’s implied suggestion without looking forwards.

One country after another has been stealing an online freedom or another. In the US, web designers are being tried in court because they were involved in the design of a poker website. So it’s going on all over the world and it’s not going to stop, once blood has been tasted. Unless we look far ahead and speak out now.

]]> By: David Krug http://www.901am.com/2007/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-2054 David Krug Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:11:47 +0000 http://www.actionwebtools.com/~nine01am/?p=1163#comment-2054 Mark, good stuff here in the comments. I agree online maybe the best hope for world peace. Mark,
good stuff here in the comments.

I agree online maybe the best hope for world peace.

]]> By: Mark http://www.901am.com/2007/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-online-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-2059 Mark Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:04:26 +0000 http://www.actionwebtools.com/~nine01am/?p=1163#comment-2059 I don't think we have even passed the first stage of this "empire". It's a little bit of a stretch to compare it to the Roman Empire or Nazi Germany, although one can never hear Niemöller quote too often. I would say that the internet will become increasingly vetted by govt. and/or big business. In that sense, yes- the best days may be behind us. But I also feel, perhaps naively, that this "online empire" is our best chance for world peace. One can't let this go without a Churchill quote (Hitler never conquered the UK, which is after all part of Europe!)-: "It is a mistake to look too far ahead. Only one link of the chain of destiny can be handled at a time..." I don’t think we have even passed the first stage of this “empire”. It’s a little bit of a stretch to compare it to the Roman Empire or Nazi Germany, although one can never hear Niemöller quote too often. I would say that the internet will become increasingly vetted by govt. and/or big business. In that sense, yes- the best days may be behind us. But I also feel, perhaps naively, that this “online empire” is our best chance for world peace. One can’t let this go without a Churchill quote (Hitler never conquered the UK, which is after all part of Europe!)-: “It is a mistake to look too far ahead. Only one link of the chain of destiny can be handled at a time…”

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